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<center>'''PNG''' when tryig to add a PNG-File, there occurs an error saying that the png This page is not correctnow obsolete. Can you please check if PNG is enabled in It has been superceded by the wiki configuration. Thank you [[Userhttp:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 21:21, 9 August 2006 (CEST):Will look into it, I thought i had it fixed//www.cpcwiki.. [[User:Gryzor|Gryzoreu/forum dedicated forum]] 10:06, 10 August 2006 (CEST)----so please go there!'''</center>

<div style="margin-top:32px;text-align:center;padding:5px 0px 4px 0px;background-color:#ffc0c0;border:1px solid #ffc0c0;">'''Math:ATTENTION!''' Today I wanted to add some formulas (very simple!) to describe <br />This talk page should '''only''' be used for discussions about the mathmatic background of a routine'''Main Page''' and the '''Side Bar'''. Are <mathbr /> Tags supported? --For general CPCWiki related discussions please use the [[User:Octoate|OctoateDiscussion]] 21:18, 9 August 2006 (CEST)page.<br />:Which article did you edit? Can you try emailing me? You have not verified your email address For suggestions of completely new sections and I can't send you an email... features, please use the [[User:Gryzor|GryzorSuggestions]] 10:06, 10 August 2006 (CEST)page.----</div>

* '''Menu:''' The menu entry "In short - history" nearly contains all necessary informations about the different CPC models. Maybe we can delete the entries for the different models and add For older talks please have a new entry for look at the technical informations (CRTC, GateArray, etc.). What do you think about it?:I completely agree with it. We should group it in a technical specifications article. -- [[UserTalk:ProdatronMain_Page/Archive1|ProdatronArchive]] 17:04, 9 August 2006 (CEST):Or maybe we just group the "old generation", so we have 2 or 3 entries? Don't know... -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 17:09, 9 August 2006 (CEST)::Hmm, but wouldn't it better if the informations are collected in one article (less mouseclicks -> I'm lazy ;)). --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 21:18, 9 August 2006 (CEST):This article is intended indeed as a short introduction. I do believe that quite a bit more can be written about each specific model, so I think they are worth a page of their own...? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 10:06, 10 August 2006 (CEST)----

'''Adding templates:''' We should add some templates to mark articles for e.g. deletion. You can see == Forum ==Today the reason for the need for templates if you have a look at the article about [[Beau Jolly]]. You can find examples for that kind of templates in the original wiki (http://enwww.wikipediacpcwiki.orgeu/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages)forum Forum] opened its gates.:Hmmm I'm not really sure what you mean... the Beau Jolly page is a harmless prank - at least I consider felt it so at this point. If and when was necessary because the wiki gets bigger and to such a size that systematic patrolling discussion system of the Wiki is needed, then I think we can start putting some mechanisms into placenot adequate... For now, just reading the changes and glancing at the pages It is surely enough? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 14:07, 7 August 2006 (CEST)::I not meant the template signs of Wikipedia to simply add warning, etc. Here is an direct example of some different marks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Disputes We don't need all signs, of coursereplace every talk page, but some to easily mark articles for deletion or for the need of an improvement would be nice (no automatic robots - just to mark the articles). --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 14:24, 7 August 2006 (CEST):::Ah, that's interesting now... I'll have to see how to implement them - unless you got some idea? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 14:53, 7 August 2006 (CEST)::::I think they can just be added with copy & paste!? --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 15:06, 7 August 2006 (CEST):::::I made a test with the [[Beau Jolly]] article. Unfortunately you can't do simple copy & paste because of all the internal links in the Wikipedia templates. Maybe someone can improve it. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 16:57, 7 August 2006 (CEST):I would like to see templates for different categories of software ''e.g.'' games, demos, applications, like the information boxes one sees on Wikipedia for computer games - see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spindizzy_(computer_game) Wikipedia's entry on ''Spindizzy''] as an example. The problem good for me at the moment is that I don't know how to create complex tables and boxes in wiki markup at the moment! general discussion topics :-( [[User:Nich|Nich]] 17:31, 7 August 2006 (CEST)::I added the template for the game info boxes ([[Template:Infobox CVG]]), but currently the "parser functions" like #if: don't seem to work. --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 18:44, 7 August 2006 (CEST)::Ok, I found the page which explains the installation of the "ParserFunctions" extension. It have to be installed to get the template working: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions#Installation --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 18:51, 7 August 2006 (CEST):::Mmmm just installed it -at least the relevant files. But, how about this line:::: <pre>require_once( "$IP/extensions/ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.php" );</pre>,:::it says it has to go to the end of LocalSettings.php. But if I do place it there (before the closing tag), it breaks the whole wiki... darn. Will try to look into it. [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 2009:3206, 7 August 22 November 2006 (CESTCET)----

'''Moving the search''' field There is a bit more to little problem with the top of pages linked only in the left menu will be nice, so its easier to search articles without scrolling around. Hope you can do that PLEAAAASE sidebar:-) [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 09:36, 5 August 2006 (CEST):That would be nice - I think it should be higher, too. The problem is, this has to do with they only appear on the skin, and I'm not yet as comfortable with customising itdefault mediawiki theme... if someone knows how, please step forward! There is a list here: [[Userspecial:Gryzor|Gryzorlonelypages]] 16Link them from somewhere else :48, 5 August 2006 (CEST)----

I think it would be nice to have a menu link to technical documentation and sourcecode (routine collection) on the left side. You then can put articles like 'Hardware scrolling' in this categories... --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 15:14Ah yes, 3 July 2006 (CDT): Thatyou's a really good idea - re right and I have noticed it would be nice to be able to post source code here.... myself --[[User:ChaRleyTroniC|ChaRleyTroniC]] 17:00, 3 July 2006 (CDT): Indeed itthough I don's a nice ideat know why anyone would use some other theme, and I thought about it upon looking at think this is the source code provided over at the Zone. Will add a link when I get back from work best by far :) - [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 22:35D Anyhow, 3 July 2006 (CDT)----I think it will be a good idea 'm just waiting to do localisation. So i can add or translate Pages into germanmove servers, cause my english writing when this is not that good as needed for the wiki. done I'll do my best, but heylook after such details.. there are a few users around wich cannot write nor read english, so it will be a help . thanks for them. What do you think about localisation? pointing out!!! [[User:KangarooGryzor|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJTGryzor]] 0910:3103, 5 August 28 July 2006 (CESTCDT)

: I would be a little bit afraid, that this could split up our forces, as it :There is a lot additional workstill 14 orphaned pages. Maybe people would start writing only in their native languages. Better to have an article in bad english (which can be corrected by other people) than having it only in . and i prefer using another theme because i use a "local" language (which can't be read by other people)browser without css support. But that's just my opinion. . And what is the difference between [[Applications]] and Utilities ?:::You are right, I will move the Utilities to the Apps and mark them to be deleted! -- [[User:ProdatronOctoate|ProdatronOctoate]] 1310:1213, 5 11 August 2006 (CEST)

: As I think this was discussed before... still don´t understand why we have two search windows I'm not against content in other languagesrepeat the question if we really need them both? ;-) --[[User:Villain|Villain]] 17:08, but I'm worried this will lead to lots of content being in French, German or Spanish, hence for a limited audience28 August 2006 (CEST):Yup. So I The second one (the top one) was thinking added when the sidebar was so tall that maybe it should be allowed as long as an english translation the lower search field was out of the screen. Now the sidebar is provided. In any casetoo short, maybe we can allow but it with the provision that this will, eventually, be translatedprobably grow again. But if we see that no translations are done, then maybe it shouldn't continue... [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 1618:3822, 5 28 August 2006 (CEST):: hey.. i dont think its clever to do it that way so 'm just waiting for someone who tells me.. REMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second Search-Field and.. booom.. it will be better to have only english as main language. the problem also will begone :-D [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]]:::Hey Kanga, that the content will move away in different languagesREMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second search field! --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 21:04, so information will be vailable in german 28 August 2006 (CEST)::::Don´t know if anybody else already told you but are not at : REMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second Search-Field --[[User:Villain|Villain]] 21:09, 28 August 2006 (CEST)::::Ok, have noticed the english page Wink with the Zaunpfahl :-) and so oni will do my job tomorrow, if i find time :-):::::Ok, I removed it. dont know how Happy, y'all? :) [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 20:00, 29 August 2006 (CEST):::::Ahh Gryzor did it can be handled to have everything with the same content in different languages:) So what? [[User:81.90.35.80|81.90.35.80]] 11:20, 24 September 2006 (CEST)

BtwRegarding the main page, what's about redesigning it a little bit in the way of most other Wikis like Wikipedia? The main page shouldn't we better add new entries here at contain the end of complete site map. I like the text? style of Wikipedia much more. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 2316:0229, 9 29 August 2006 (CEST) :Not reallyWell, old I differ in my opinion with yours. I don't like a big sidebar and prefer a good main page which can bring me directly to the different stuff is getting pushed in the Wiki, because you have much more room there to give a good entry point. Btw, I only use 1024x768 and I so I see it till "Software-Programming" in the bottom which is nice :sidebar (ok, will change if I get a new notebook someday ;) ). Anyway, I will join the majority =). --[[User:GryzorOctoate|GryzorOctoate]] 1019:0654, 10 29 August 2006 (CEST) :::"Software-Programming" is your last visible entry? 8-O Maybe you choosed a font size of 300% and installed the Google, Yahoo and MSN toolbars at the same time? ;--Hi)) My last entry is "Editing help", well, if I add a JPG with 1280x1024. Ok, the '|thumb' commandsidebar could be still optimized, maybe we can move "About - contribute" to the end (it doesn't show should be also mentioned on the start page ) and remove "PD libraries" as an example (e.g. [[CPC Schneider International]]not so important for having an own entry point here IMHO). What am I doing wrong? --[[User:OctoateProdatron|OctoateProdatron]] 0120:0226, 5 29 August 2006 (CEST) :::: Here at work I also thinkuse 2560x1024, that the "thumb" feature so there is not working yetno problem here. Maybe I will use a smaller font size and buy some glasses for my notebook ;-) -- [[User:ProdatronOctoate|ProdatronOctoate]] 0310:1852, 5 30 August 2006 (CEST) : :The reason Irolled it back to a more expanded list (though I condensed the CPC models) is that, if it'm s not like that, then surely there's no reason in having troubles with the permissions a Sidebar? 8) Though I understand that on some resolutions (are you really on '''1024'''?? :D ) the server. The Wiki needs the image folder to entire SIdebar may not be chmodvisible, I think that removing it altogether is much worse than having one that doesn'ed t show in its entirety! :: Concerning the main page, now, it should not be the only launching page - the user should not need to 777get to the homepage in order to jump to a different category, but some hence the use of the subfolders do not have full access yetSidebar. On the other hand Ifind it 'm trying to chmod all of them''much more useful''' as it is right now, but how do than like it was before, though it can be improved somewhat - I make sure 'll agree with Prodatron in that the newly created ones will be 777? it looks somewhat 'dry' right now.[[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 0820:3805, 5 29 August 2006 (CEST) ::if you need help or Shell-Access : Oh come on .. wich BAST)(&" has modified the server Sidebar again to do chmod that really useless and annoying list of unwanted links :-r comands on dirsD Why dont use the mainpage AND the SEARCH to find content, just give me a call instead of adding things wild, unorganized and i will set it up for you. useless to the sidebar?? [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 0921:2749, 5 29 August 2006 (CEST) :::Problem solved indeed :You and Octo have your mainpage, and Gryzor and me have our sidebar. Everyone is happy now :-P -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 21:58, 29 August 2006 (CEST)  ::::: =) --[[User:GryzorOctoate|GryzorOctoate]] 1610:3852, 5 30 August 2006 (CEST) :::: I think it´s useful to have some more things on the Sidebar than before. But now it´s too much... As Prodi already said PD libraries should be kicked out, also clones and some others too... --[[User:Villain|Villain]] 21:57, 29 August 2006 (CEST) ::::: Sounds good! --[[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 21:58, 29 August 2006 (CEST)'''Real names with the pseudonym?''' Shall we add the real names ::::: It did it in this way and moved "contribute" to the scene-informations as we know end. Is itbetter now? Maybe it's very helpfull to add Btw, how can I clear the real name to remember the persons. So in my case i will add "Kangaroo MusiQue (Thorsten Norman Mitschele). What do you think about thatcache? -- [[User:KangarooProdatron|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJTProdatron]] 0922:4804, 5 29 August 2006 (CEST)  ::Well:: The Bastard is me, absolutely, why not? I meanwould guess. As I said, the reason for rolling it back is that under the short form, thereis simply NO NEED for the sidebar. The sidebar is there for the reader to be able to navigate quickly to all parts of the wiki without having to go to the main page. It is NOT useless, certainly NOT unwanted (I use it all the time instead of the main page links) and I doubt it's nothing stopping annoying - the space is empty if you doing so anywaydon't put links there, so it goes wasted. The Main Page is NOT the place to put links on and in general a real name would be welcome indeed, is much harder to go with use than the pseudonymsidebar.Unorganized? I wouldn't think so - the structure is quite ok right now, if anyone can think of ways to improve it, please do step forward.. Maybe It's not even wild, since it has been tamed a photo too lot since its first appearance, and definitely not unorganized - see the little boxes that organise it? :p [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 09:49, 30 August 2006 (CEST)----Maybe its possible to make a == New main page == I was so free and reorganized the complete main page into the usual "wiki style".So the complete link list of all software("CPCWiki portal") has its own page now -houses like Oceanwe should improve this page, Alligata etcthat nearly all articels can be found there directly or indirectly. Where Regarding the new main page maybe we can add some nice informations about those companies?even more sections like "article of the month" or something like this. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 02:40, 1 September 2006 (CEST) : You can actually add a link yourselfGreat. If you go into The I like the new wikilike design. --[[GamesUser:Octoate|Octoate]] 09:58, 1 September 2006 (CEST) ::I am pleased to hear that! We just need to take care about the up-to-dateness. As an example, every one, who is inserting a new entry in the news section you can should also update the main page. I would also like to suggest and add a link about some guidelines, which describe, what and how to add entries to the different sections in the main page to prevent uncontrolled growth. -- [[Software HousesUser:Prodatron|Prodatron]] and start adding. Maybe 16:24, 1 September 2006 (CEST) ::: I will add it to like the sidebar new layout as well , it's meaningful and nicely put, although I think it can use a little cleaning over time :) - I'm a bit confused as to how news etc works, though, it currently seems to be all over the place and it's difficult to maintain it for someone who doesn't know exactly how... [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 2220:3537, 3 July 1 September 2006 (CDTCEST):::: Regarding the news I will write a suggestion for the guidline how to insert new news. In general you have a headline, which have to be placed to the news (max 10 entries), the news archive (unlimited) and the main page (max 3 entries). The headline is the article name where you write the news itself + links to the source and the category (month). ----[[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 20:58, 1 September 2006 (CEST)Why does == Main picture of the crap keep getting posted at main page ==Gryzor, why have you modified the bottom photo of the main pagewith the ancient one ? If this wiki is related to cpc, i guess it's not only the cpc 464 and the whole cpc range is concerned... bloody spammers! Almost the 464 photo seemd truncated and overlayed by a line. Longshot --[[User:Executioner195.154.167.66|Executioner195.154.167.66]]14:Indeed53, 23 November 2006 (CET) You have reverted modification without any answer about my contrib here about that... I have noticed won't to waste time to update this picture again. Gryzor, you're the main contributor of this site but i think your work method is not fair, especially on a site built mainly by contributors.--[[User:Longshot|Longshot]] 13:17, 24 November 2006 (you always get to it faster than me!CET) : Well. I reverted it to the older version because I assumed there is something wrong with the image, that's all. For some reason the "range" photo won't appear, and I really thank you for thattried it fromt wo different computers and different browsers. This is what Can you get try reuploading the image under a new filename and changing the main page? Also, the 464 pic does appear fine for allowing posts without registeringme - tried with Firefox, but I think Opera, IE. As you can see it's worth not a matter of being 'unfair' - it continuing 's a technical issue, despite the fact that I like thisthe 464 one better :):PS try to remember to log in before doing any changes.... :) [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 19:36, at least 24 November 2006 (CET) ::Sorry for the misunderstanding. About the range photo it's strange because i've any problem with ie or firefox (my personal pc) or crazy browser on my professional pc. This picture is a while, scan i'd modified in 2001 and see how coming from my site. I've compressed the picture with a newer version of image ready from 53kb to 29.2 kb and i try to upload it goesagain under a new name.Please let me know if the problem occurs again.. Thanks so much.--[[User:Longshot|Longshot]] 11:46, 26 November 2006 (CET) ::: It appears ok now, but I scaled the thumbnail down a bit because it was a big too big... thanks! [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 0218:1611, 22 July 26 November 2006 (CDTCET) == CPC taking a day off == Is the CPC still in vacation? ;-) Maybe we could remove the picture, to make the info boxes below accessible in a better way again. Are maybe someone has an idea for an other cool frontpage motive? ---[[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 22:36, 18 September 2007 (CEST)