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<center>'''Main This page:''' Yesterday, Kanga and me thought about how to do a good entry point for the articles of the Wiki and came to the conclusion that the main page wastes too much space and the sidebar gets too bigis now obsolete. If it is ok, I will think about a new design of It has been superceded by the main page during the weekend and maybe prepare a first design under in the "Loose Lemmas" article. --[[Userhttp:Octoate|Octoate//www.cpcwiki.eu/forum dedicated forum]] 10:09, 11 August 2006 (CEST)----so please go there!'''</center>
'''PNG''' when tryig to add a PNG<div style="margin-File, there occurs an error saying that the png is not correct. Can you please check if PNG is enabled in the wiki configuration. Thank you [[Usertop:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 2132px;text-align:21, 9 August 2006 (CEST)center;padding:Will look into it, I thought i had it fixed... [[User5px 0px 4px 0px;background-color:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 10#ffc0c0;border:06, 10 August 2006 (CEST)1px solid #ffc0c0;">:: Darn... I can't get it to work! what has to be done is add this line to LocalSettings.php: $wgFileExtensions = array( 'png', ATTENTION!'jpg', 'jpeg<br />This talk page should ', 'ogg',only'doc','xlsbe used for discussions about the ','ppt',Main Page'mp3','pdf' ); listing all and the extensions you need... well, I changed LocalSettings.php and also changed DefaultSettings.php (though not advisable), extensions are not blacklisted but it '''still wonSide Bar't work'''!!! ARGH!!!! .<br />For general CPCWiki related discussions please use the [[User:Gryzor|GryzorDiscussion]] 08:47page.<br />For suggestions of completely new sections and features, 11 August 2006 (CEST)please use the [[Suggestions]] page.----</div>
* '''Math:''' Today I wanted to add some formulas (very simple!) to describe For older talks please have a look at the mathmatic background of a routine. Are <math> Tags supported? --[[UserTalk:OctoateMain_Page/Archive1|OctoateArchive]] 21:18, 9 August 2006 (CEST):Which article did you edit? Can you try emailing me? You have not verified your email address and I can.''t send you an email... [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 10:06, 10 August 2006 (CEST)----
'''Menu== Forum ==Today the [http:''' The menu entry "In short - history" nearly contains all necessary informations about the different CPC models//www. Maybe we can delete the entries for the different models and add a new entry for the technical informations (CRTC, GateArray, etccpcwiki.)eu/forum Forum] opened its gates. What do you think about it?:I completely agree with felt it. We should group it in a technical specifications article. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 17:04, 9 August 2006 (CEST):Or maybe we just group was necessary because the "old generation", so we have 2 or 3 entries? Don't knowdiscussion system of the Wiki is not adequate... -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 17:09, 9 August 2006 (CEST)::HmmIt is not meant to replace every talk page, but wouldn't it better if the informations are collected in one article (less mouseclicks -> I'm lazy ;)). --[[Users good for general discussion topics :Octoate|Octoate]] 21:18, 9 August 2006 (CEST):This article is intended indeed as a short introduction. I do believe that quite a bit more can be written about each specific model, so I think they are worth a page of their own...? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 1009:06, 10 August 22 November 2006 (CESTCET)----
'''Adding templates:''' We should add some templates to mark articles for e.g. deletion. You can see the reason for the need for templates if you have a look at the article about [[Beau Jolly]]. You can find examples for that kind of templates in the original wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages).:Hmmm I'm not really sure what you mean... the Beau Jolly page is a harmless prank - at least I consider it so at this point. If and when the wiki gets bigger and to such a size that systematic patrolling is needed, then I think we can start putting some mechanisms into place... For now, just reading the changes and glancing at the pages is surely enough? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 14:07, 7 August 2006 (CEST)::I meant the template signs of Wikipedia to simply add warning, etc. Here is an direct example of some different marks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Disputes We don't need all signs, of course, but some to easily mark articles for deletion or for the need of an improvement would be nice (no automatic robots - just to mark the articles). --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 14:24, 7 August 2006 (CEST):::Ah, that's interesting now... I'll have to see how to implement them - unless you got some idea? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 14:53, 7 August 2006 (CEST)::::I think they can just be added with copy & paste!? --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 15:06, 7 August 2006 (CEST):::::I made a test with the [[Beau Jolly]] article. Unfortunately you can't do simple copy & paste because of all the internal == Sidebar links in the Wikipedia templates. Maybe someone can improve it. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 16:57, 7 August 2006 (CEST):I would like to see templates for different categories of software ''e.g.'' games, demos, applications, like the information boxes one sees on Wikipedia for computer games - see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spindizzy_(computer_game) Wikipedia's entry on ''Spindizzy''] as an example. The problem for me at the moment is that I don't know how to create complex tables and boxes in wiki markup at the moment! :-( [[User:Nich|Nich]] 17:31, 7 August 2006 (CEST)::I added the template for the game info boxes ([[Template:Infobox CVG]]), but currently the "parser functions" like #if: don't seem to work. --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 18:44, 7 August 2006 (CEST)::Ok, I found the page which explains the installation of the "ParserFunctions" extension. It have to be installed to get the template working: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions#Installation --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 18:51, 7 August 2006 (CEST):::Mmmm just installed it -at least the relevant files. But, how about this line:::: <pre>require_once( "$IP/extensions/ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.php" );</pre>,:::it says it has to go to the end of LocalSettings.php. But if I do place it there (before the closing tag), it breaks the whole wiki... darn. Will try to look into it. [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 20:32, 7 August 2006 (CEST)----==
'''More Fileformats''' should be added, so upload of PDF and ZIP-Files will be possible. I Think There is a lot of manuals and stuff is in PDF-Format or some Freeware / Shareware / Public Domain Programmes can be directly addes to little problem with the pages (Wanted to do that with linked only in the SOundtrakkr 128K). So its will be great if someone who reads something about a demo or programm also can download sidebar: they only appear on the DSK or whatever to run it on an emulator or cpcdefault mediawiki theme.: More file extensions allowed now. You can actually upload zip, rar (preferred due to better compression), pdf and mp3 (for all those tape conversions!). Nevertheless, can't There is a manual be copied as txt? list here: [[Userspecial:Gryzor|Gryzorlonelypages]] 09:00, 6 August 2006 (CEST)Link them from somewhere else :: '''THIS IS NOT!! working'''. I have tried to upload a PDFand a ZIP. Both doesn't work. Please check that and correct it [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 22:53, 9 August 2006 (CEST)----
'''Moving the search''' field a bit more to the top of the left menu will be nice, so its easier to search articles without scrolling around. Hope you can do that PLEAAAASE :-) [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 09:36Ah yes, 5 August 2006 (CEST):That would be nice you're right and I have noticed it myself - though I don't know why anyone would use some other theme, I think it should be higher, too. The problem this isthe best by far :D Anyhow, this has I'm just waiting to do with the skinmove servers, and when this is done I'm not yet as comfortable with customising itll look after such details... if someone knows how, please step forwardthanks for pointing out!!! [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 1610:4803, 5 August 28 July 2006 (CESTCDT)----
I think it would be nice to have a menu link to technical documentation and sourcecode (routine collection) on the left side::There is still 14 orphaned pages. You then can put articles like 'Hardware scrolling' in this categories... --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 15:14, 3 July 2006 (CDT): That's and i prefer using another theme because i use a really good idea - it would be nice to be able to post source code herebrowser without css support.... --And what is the difference between [[User:ChaRleyTroniC|ChaRleyTroniCApplications]] 17:00, 3 July 2006 (CDT)and Utilities ?: Indeed it's a nice idea, and I thought about it upon looking at the source code provided over at the Zone. Will add a link when I get back from work :) - [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 22:35You are right, 3 July 2006 (CDT)----I think it will be a good idea move the Utilities to do localisation. So i can add or translate Pages into german, cause my english writing is not that good as needed for the wiki. I'll do my best, but hey.. there are a few users around wich cannot write nor read english, so it will Apps and mark them to be a help for them. What do you think about localisation? deleted! --[[User:KangarooOctoate|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJTOctoate]] 0910:3113, 5 11 August 2006 (CEST)
: I would be a little bit afraid, that this could split up our forces, as it is a lot additional work. Maybe people would start writing only in their native languages. Better to have an article in bad english (which can be corrected by other people) than having it only in a "local" language (which can't be read by other people). But that's just my opinion. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 13:12, 5 August 2006 (CEST)== Search ==
:: As I still don´t understand why we have two search windows I repeat the same opinion like Prodatron. It's much more work and question if we really need them both Wikis will be different. You can see an example for that situation on the ? ;-) --[http[User://wiki.gp2x.org GP2X WikiVillain|Villain] and this device has a much bigger userbase] 17:08, 28 August 2006 (CEST):Yup. I guess The second one (the most common language should be used, top one) was added when the sidebar was so we should write greektall that the lower search field was out of the screen.Now the sidebar is too short, but it will probably grow again... aehm.[[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 18:22, 28 August 2006 (CEST):: hey.. english ;i'm just waiting for someone who tells me.. REMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second Search-)Field and. . booom.. it will be gone :-D [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]]:::Hey Kanga, REMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second search field! --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 1521:5704, 5 28 August 2006 (CEST)::::Don´t know if anybody else already told you but: REMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second Search-Field --[[User:Villain|Villain]] 21:09, 28 August 2006 (CEST)::::Ok, have noticed the Wink with the Zaunpfahl :-) and i will do my job tomorrow, if i find time :-):::::Ok, I removed it. Happy, y'all? :) [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 20:00, 29 August 2006 (CEST):::::Ahh Gryzor did it :) So what? [[User:81.90.35.80|81.90.35.80]] 11:20, 24 September 2006 (CEST)
: I think this was discussed before... I'm not against content in other languages, but I'm worried this will lead to lots of content being in French, German or Spanish, hence for a limited audience. So I was thinking that maybe it should be allowed as long as an english translation is provided. In any case, maybe we can allow it with the provision that this will, eventually, be translated. But if we see that no translations are done, then maybe it shouldn't continue... [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 16:38, 5 August 2006 (CEST):: i dont think its clever to do it that way so it will be better to have only english as main language. the problem also will be, that the content will move away in different languages, so information will be vailable in german but are not at the english page == Mainpage and so on. dont know how it can be handled to have everything with the same content in different languagesSidebar ==
----TBH I like Gryzors rollback of the sidebar, as all the important main links should be mentioned there to have fast access from every point inside CPCWiki. With an usual screen resolution you should see the complete main part of the sidebar, so I don't see any problem with its length.
== Archive ==Regarding the main page, what's about redesigning it a little bit in the way of most other Wikis like Wikipedia? The main page shouldn't contain the complete site map. I like the style of Wikipedia much more. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 16:29, 29 August 2006 (CEST)
Btw:Well, shouldnI differ in my opinion with yours. I don't we better add like a big sidebar and prefer a good main page which can bring me directly to the different stuff in the Wiki, because you have much more room there to give a good entry point. Btw, I only use 1024x768 and I so I see it till "Software-Programming" in the sidebar (ok, will change if I get a new entries here at notebook someday ;)). Anyway, I will join the end majority =). --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 19:54, 29 August 2006 (CEST) :::"Software-Programming" is your last visible entry? 8-O Maybe you choosed a font size of 300% and installed the textGoogle, Yahoo and MSN toolbars at the same time? ;-)) My last entry is "Editing help", well, with 1280x1024. Ok, the sidebar could be still optimized, maybe we can move "About - contribute" to the end (it should be also mentioned on the start page) and remove "PD libraries" as an example (not so important for having an own entry point here IMHO). -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 2320:0226, 9 29 August 2006 (CEST) :Not really::: Here at work I use 2560x1024, old stuff so there is getting pushed to the bottom which is nice :no problem here. Maybe I will use a smaller font size and buy some glasses for my notebook ;-) --[[User:GryzorOctoate|GryzorOctoate]] 10:0652, 10 30 August 2006 (CEST)----Hi, if ::The reason I add rolled it back to a JPG with more expanded list (though I condensed the CPC models) is that, if it'|thumbs not like that, then surely there' commands no reason in having a Sidebar? 8) Though I understand that on some resolutions (are you really on '''1024'''?? :D ) the entire SIdebar may not be visible, I think that removing it altogether is much worse than having one that doesn't show on in its entirety! :: Concerning the main page (e, now, it should not be the only launching page - the user should not need to get to the homepage in order to jump to a different category, hence the use of the Sidebar.gOn the other hand I find it '''much more useful''' as it is right now, than like it was before, though it can be improved somewhat - I'll agree with Prodatron in that it looks somewhat 'dry' right now. [[CPC Schneider InternationalUser:Gryzor|Gryzor]]20:05, 29 August 2006 (CEST::: Oh come on. What am I doing wrong. wich BAST)(&" has modified the Sidebar again to that really useless and annoying list of unwanted links :-D Why dont use the mainpage AND the SEARCH to find content, instead of adding things wild, unorganized and useless to the sidebar? ? [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 21:49, 29 August 2006 (CEST) :::: You and Octo have your mainpage, and Gryzor and me have our sidebar. Everyone is happy now :-P -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 21:58, 29 August 2006 (CEST) ::::: =) --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 0110:0252, 5 30 August 2006 (CEST) ::::I also think, that it´s useful to have some more things on the Sidebar than before. But now it´s too much... As Prodi already said PD libraries should be kicked out, also clones and some others too... --[[User:Villain|Villain]] 21:57, 29 August 2006 (CEST) ::::: Sounds good! -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 21:58, 29 August 2006 (CEST) ::::: It did it in this way and moved "thumbcontribute" feature is not working yetto the end. Is it better now? Btw, how can I clear the cache? -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 0322:1804, 5 29 August 2006 (CEST) : ::: The Bastard is me, I'm having troubles with would guess. As I said, the permissions on reason for rolling it back is that under the servershort form, there is simply NO NEED for the sidebar. The Wiki needs sidebar is there for the image folder reader to be chmod'ed able to 777, but some navigate quickly to all parts of the subfolders do not have full access yetwiki without having to go to the main page. It is NOT useless, certainly NOT unwanted (Iuse it all the time instead of the main page links) and I doubt it'm trying s annoying - the space is empty if you don't put links there, so it goes wasted. The Main Page is NOT the place to chmod all put links on and is much harder to use than the sidebar. Unorganized? I wouldn't think so - the structure is quite ok right now, if anyone can think of themways to improve it, but how please do I make sure that step forward. It's not even wild, since it has been tamed a lot since its first appearance, and definitely not unorganized - see the newly created ones will be 777little boxes that organise it? :p [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 0809:3849, 5 30 August 2006 (CEST) == New main page == I was so free and reorganized the complete main page into the usual "wiki style".So the complete link list ("CPCWiki portal") has its own page now - we should improve this page, that nearly all articels can be found there directly or indirectly.Regarding the new main page maybe we can add even more sections like "article of the month" or something like this. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 02:if you need help or Shell40, 1 September 2006 (CEST) :Great. I like the new wikilike design. -Access on -[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 09:58, 1 September 2006 (CEST) ::I am pleased to hear that! We just need to take care about the server up-to do chmod -r comands on dirsdateness. As an example, just give me every one, who is inserting a call new entry in the news section should also update the main page. I would also like to suggest and i will set it up for youadd some guidelines, which describe, what and how to add entries to the different sections in the main page to prevent uncontrolled growth. -- [[User:KangarooProdatron|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJTProdatron]] 0916:2724, 5 August 1 September 2006 (CEST) :::Problem solved indeed I like the new layout as well, it's meaningful and nicely put, although I think it can use a little cleaning over time :) I'm a bit confused as to how news etc works, though, it currently seems to be all over the place and it's difficult to maintain it for someone who doesn't know exactly how... [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 1620:3837, 5 August 1 September 2006 (CEST)----'''Real names with :::: Regarding the pseudonym?''' Shall we add news I will write a suggestion for the real names guidline how to the scene-informations as we know it? Maybe it's very helpfull insert new news. In general you have a headline, which have to be placed to add the real news (max 10 entries), the news archive (unlimited) and the main page (max 3 entries). The headline is the article name where you write the news itself + links to remember the persons. So in my case i will add "Kangaroo MusiQue source and the category (Thorsten Norman Mitschelemonth). What do you think about that? -- [[User:KangarooProdatron|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJTProdatron]] 0920:4858, 5 August 1 September 2006 (CEST) :Well, absolutely== Main picture of the main page ==Gryzor, why nothave you modified the photo of the main page with the ancient one ? I meanIf this wiki is related to cpc, therei guess it's nothing stopping you doing so anyway, not only the cpc 464 and in general a real name would be welcome indeed, to go with the pseudonymwhole cpc range is concerned... Maybe a Almost the 464 photo too seemd truncated and overlayed by a line. Longshot --[[User:195.154.167.66|195.154.167.66]] 14:53, 23 November 2006 (CET)----Maybe its possible You have reverted modification without any answer about my contrib here about that...I won't to make a list waste time to update this picture again. Gryzor, you're the main contributor of all software-houses like Oceanthis site but i think your method is not fair, Alligata etc. Where we can add some nice informations about those companies?: You can actually add especially on a link yourselfsite built mainly by contributors. If you go into The --[[GamesUser:Longshot|Longshot]] section 13:17, 24 November 2006 (CET) : Well. I reverted it to the older version because I assumed there is something wrong with the image, that's all. For some reason the "range" photo won't appear, and I tried it fromt wo different computers and different browsers. Can you can add try reuploading the image under a link about [[Software Houses]] new filename and start addingchanging the main page? Also, the 464 pic does appear fine for me - tried with Firefox, Opera, IE. Maybe I will add As you can see it to 's not a matter of being 'unfair' - it's a technical issue, despite the sidebar as well fact that I like the 464 one better :):PS try to remember to log in before doing any changes.... :) - [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 2219:3536, 3 July 24 November 2006 (CDTCET)----Why does ::Sorry for the crap keep getting posted at misunderstanding. About the bottom range photo it's strange because i've any problem with ie or firefox (my personal pc) or crazy browser on my professional pc. This picture is a scan i'd modified in 2001 and coming from my site. I've compressed the picture with a newer version of image ready from 53kb to 29.2 kb and i try to upload it again under a new name. Please let me know if the main pageproblem occurs again... bloody spammers! --[[User:ExecutionerLongshot|ExecutionerLongshot]]11:Indeed... I have noticed your work 46, 26 November 2006 (you always get to it faster than me!CET), and I really thank you for that. This is what you get for allowing posts without registering ::: It appears ok now, but I think it's worth it continuing like this, at least for scaled the thumbnail down a while, and see how bit because it goeswas a big too big... Thanks so muchthanks! [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 0218:1611, 22 July 26 November 2006 (CDTCET== CPC taking a day off == Is the CPC still in vacation? ;-) Maybe we could remove the picture, to make the info boxes below accessible in a better way again. Are maybe someone has an idea for an other cool frontpage motive? ---[[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 22:36, 18 September 2007 (CEST)