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<center>'''PNG''' when tryig to add a PNG-File, there occurs an error saying that the png This page is not correctnow obsolete. Can you please check if PNG is enabled in It has been superceded by the wiki configuration. Thank you [[Userhttp:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 21:21, 9 August 2006 (CEST):Will look into it, I thought i had it fixed//www.cpcwiki.. [[User:Gryzor|Gryzoreu/forum dedicated forum]] 10:06, 10 August 2006 (CEST)----so please go there!'''</center>

<div style="margin-top:32px;text-align:center;padding:5px 0px 4px 0px;background-color:#ffc0c0;border:1px solid #ffc0c0;">'''Math:ATTENTION!''' Today I wanted to add some formulas (very simple!) to describe <br />This talk page should '''only''' be used for discussions about the mathmatic background of a routine'''Main Page''' and the '''Side Bar'''. Are <mathbr /> Tags supported? --For general CPCWiki related discussions please use the [[User:Octoate|OctoateDiscussion]] 21:18, 9 August 2006 (CEST)page.<br />:Which article did you edit? Can you try emailing me? You have not verified your email address For suggestions of completely new sections and I can't send you an email... features, please use the [[User:Gryzor|GryzorSuggestions]] 10:06, 10 August 2006 (CEST)page.----</div>

* '''Menu:''' The menu entry "In short - history" nearly contains all necessary informations about the different CPC models. Maybe we can delete the entries for the different models and add For older talks please have a new entry for look at the technical informations (CRTC, GateArray, etc.). What do you think about it?:I completely agree with it. We should group it in a technical specifications article. -- [[UserTalk:ProdatronMain_Page/Archive1|ProdatronArchive]] 17:04, 9 August 2006 (CEST):Or maybe we just group the "old generation", so we have 2 or 3 entries? Don't know... -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 17:09, 9 August 2006 (CEST)::Hmm, but wouldn't it better if the informations are collected in one article (less mouseclicks -> I'm lazy ;)). --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 21:18, 9 August 2006 (CEST):This article is intended indeed as a short introduction. I do believe that quite a bit more can be written about each specific model, so I think they are worth a page of their own...? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 10:06, 10 August 2006 (CEST)----

'''Adding templates:''' We should add some templates to mark articles for e.g. deletion. You can see == Forum ==Today the reason for the need for templates if you have a look at the article about [[Beau Jolly]]. You can find examples for that kind of templates in the original wiki (http://enwww.wikipediacpcwiki.orgeu/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages)forum Forum] opened its gates.:Hmmm I'm not really sure what you mean... the Beau Jolly page is a harmless prank - at least I consider felt it so at this point. If and when was necessary because the wiki gets bigger and to such a size that systematic patrolling discussion system of the Wiki is needed, then I think we can start putting some mechanisms into placenot adequate... For now, just reading the changes and glancing at the pages It is surely enough? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 14:07, 7 August 2006 (CEST)::I not meant the template signs of Wikipedia to simply add warning, etc. Here is an direct example of some different marks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages/Disputes We don't need all signs, of coursereplace every talk page, but some to easily mark articles for deletion or for the need of an improvement would be nice (no automatic robots - just to mark the articles). --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 14:24, 7 August 2006 (CEST):::Ah, that's interesting now... I'll have to see how to implement them - unless you got some idea? [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 14:53, 7 August 2006 (CEST)::::I think they can just be added with copy & paste!? --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 15:06, 7 August 2006 (CEST):::::I made a test with the [[Beau Jolly]] article. Unfortunately you can't do simple copy & paste because of all the internal links in the Wikipedia templates. Maybe someone can improve it. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 16:57, 7 August 2006 (CEST):I would like to see templates for different categories of software ''e.g.'' games, demos, applications, like the information boxes one sees on Wikipedia for computer games - see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spindizzy_(computer_game) Wikipedia's entry on ''Spindizzy''] as an example. The problem good for me at the moment is that I don't know how to create complex tables and boxes in wiki markup at the moment! general discussion topics :-( [[User:Nich|Nich]] 17:31, 7 August 2006 (CEST)::I added the template for the game info boxes ([[Template:Infobox CVG]]), but currently the "parser functions" like #if: don't seem to work. --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 18:44, 7 August 2006 (CEST)::Ok, I found the page which explains the installation of the "ParserFunctions" extension. It have to be installed to get the template working: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ParserFunctions#Installation --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 18:51, 7 August 2006 (CEST):::Mmmm just installed it -at least the relevant files. But, how about this line:::: <pre>require_once( "$IP/extensions/ParserFunctions/ParserFunctions.php" );</pre>,:::it says it has to go to the end of LocalSettings.php. But if I do place it there (before the closing tag), it breaks the whole wiki... darn. Will try to look into it. [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 2009:3206, 7 August 22 November 2006 (CESTCET)----

'''Real names There is a little problem with the pseudonym?''' Shall we add pages linked only in the real names to sidebar: they only appear on the scene-informations as we know it? Maybe it's very helpfull to add the real name to remember the personsdefault mediawiki theme. So in my case i will add "Kangaroo MusiQue (Thorsten Norman Mitschele). What do you think about that? .There is a list here: [[Userspecial:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJTlonelypages]] 09Link them from somewhere else :48, 5 August 2006 (CEST)

:Well:Ah yes, absolutely, why not? I mean, there's nothing stopping you doing so anyway, 're right and in general a real name I have noticed it myself - though I don't know why anyone would be welcome indeeduse some other theme, to go with I think this is the pseudonymbest by far :D Anyhow, I'm just waiting to move servers, when this is done I'll look after such details... Maybe a photo too thanks for pointing out!!! [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 10:03, 28 July 2006 (CDT)

::There is still 14 orphaned pages... and i prefer using another theme because i use a browser without css support... And what is the difference between [[Applications]] and Utilities ?:::You are right, I will move the Utilities to the Apps and mark them to be deleted! ----[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 10:13, 11 August 2006 (CEST)

:That would be nice - As I think it should be higherstill don´t understand why we have two search windows I repeat the question if we really need them both? ;-) --[[User:Villain|Villain]] 17:08, too28 August 2006 (CEST):Yup. The problem second one (the top one) was added when the sidebar was so tall that the lower search field was out of the screen. Now the sidebar istoo short, this has to do with the skinbut it will probably grow again.... [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 18:22, and I28 August 2006 (CEST):: hey.. i'm not yet as comfortable with customising itjust waiting for someone who tells me..REMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second Search-Field and. if someone knows how. booom.. it will be gone :-D [[User:Kangaroo|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJT]]:::Hey Kanga, please step forwardREMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second search field! --[[User:GryzorOctoate|GryzorOctoate]] 1621:4804, 5 28 August 2006 (CEST)::::Don´t know if anybody else already told you but: REMOVE THAT F*/&%NG second Search-Field --[[User:Villain|Villain]] 21:09, 28 August 2006 (CEST)::::Ok, have noticed the Wink with the Zaunpfahl :-) and i will do my job tomorrow, if i find time :-):::::Ok, I removed it. Happy, y'all? :) [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 20:00, 29 August 2006 (CEST):::::Ahh Gryzor did it :) So what? [[User:81.90.35.80|81.90.35.80]] 11:20, 24 September 2006 (CEST)

I think it would be nice to have a menu link to technical documentation == Mainpage and sourcecode (routine collection) on the left side. You then can put articles like 'Hardware scrolling' in this categories... --[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 15:14, 3 July 2006 (CDT)Sidebar ==

: That's a really good idea - it would TBH I like Gryzors rollback of the sidebar, as all the important main links should be nice mentioned there to be able to post source code herehave fast access from every point inside CPCWiki.With an usual screen resolution you should see the complete main part of the sidebar, so I don't see any problem with its length... --[[User:ChaRleyTroniC|ChaRleyTroniC]] 17:00, 3 July 2006 (CDT)

: Indeed itRegarding the main page, what's a nice idea, and I thought about redesigning it upon looking at a little bit in the source code provided over at way of most other Wikis like Wikipedia? The main page shouldn't contain the Zonecomplete site map. Will add a link when I get back from work :) like the style of Wikipedia much more. -- [[User:GryzorProdatron|GryzorProdatron]] 2216:3529, 3 July 29 August 2006 (CDTCEST)

:Well, I differ in my opinion with yours. I don't like a big sidebar and prefer a good main page which can bring me directly to the different stuff in the Wiki, because you have much more room there to give a good entry point. Btw, I only use 1024x768 and I so I see it till "Software-Programming" in the sidebar (ok, will change if I get a new notebook someday ;)). Anyway, I will join the majority =). ---[[User:Octoate|Octoate]] 19:54, 29 August 2006 (CEST)

:::"Software-Programming" is your last visible entry? 8-O Maybe its possible to make you choosed a list font size of all software300% and installed the Google, Yahoo and MSN toolbars at the same time? ;-houses like Ocean)) My last entry is "Editing help", Alligata etcwell, with 1280x1024. Where Ok, the sidebar could be still optimized, maybe we can add some nice informations about those companies?move "About - contribute" to the end (it should be also mentioned on the start page) and remove "PD libraries" as an example (not so important for having an own entry point here IMHO). -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 20:26, 29 August 2006 (CEST)

: You can actually add a link yourself. If you go into The [[Games]] section you can add a link about [[Software Houses]] and start adding::: Here at work I use 2560x1024, so there is no problem here. Maybe I will add it to the sidebar as well :use a smaller font size and buy some glasses for my notebook ;-) -- [[User:GryzorOctoate|GryzorOctoate]] 2210:3552, 3 July 30 August 2006 (CDTCEST)

Why does :: Concerning the crap keep getting posted at main page, now, it should not be the bottom only launching page - the user should not need to get to the homepage in order to jump to a different category, hence the use of the main pageSidebar.On the other hand I find it '''much more useful''' as it is right now, than like it was before, though it can be improved somewhat - I'll agree with Prodatron in that it looks somewhat 'dry' right now.. bloody spammers! [[User:ExecutionerGryzor|ExecutionerGryzor]]20:05, 29 August 2006 (CEST)

:Indeed:: Oh come on... I have noticed your work wich BAST)(you always get &" has modified the Sidebar again to it faster than me!), that really useless and I really thank you for that. This is what you get for allowing posts without registeringannoying list of unwanted links :-D Why dont use the mainpage AND the SEARCH to find content, but I think it's worth it continuing like this, at least for a whileinstead of adding things wild, unorganized and see how it goes... Thanks so much! useless to the sidebar?? [[User:GryzorKangaroo|GryzorKangaroo MusiQue of HJT]] 0221:1649, 22 July 29 August 2006 (CDTCEST)

:::: You and Octo have your mainpage, and Gryzor and me have our sidebar. Everyone is happy now :-P ---[[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 21:58, 29 August 2006 (CEST)

:::: I think it will be a good idea it´s useful to do localisation. So i can add or translate Pages into german, cause my english writing is not that good as needed for have some more things on the wikiSidebar than before. I'll do my best, but heyBut now it´s too much.. there are a few users around wich cannot write nor read english, so it will . As Prodi already said PD libraries should be a help for themkicked out, also clones and some others too. What do you think about localisation? .. --[[User:KangarooVillain|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJTVillain]] 0921:3157, 5 29 August 2006 (CEST)

: I would be a little bit afraid, that this could split up our forces, as it is a lot additional work. Maybe people would start writing only in their native languages. Better to have an article in bad english (which can be corrected by other people) than having it only in a "local" language (which can't be read by other people). But that's just my opinion. :::: Sounds good! -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 1321:1258, 5 29 August 2006 (CEST)

:: I have the same opinion like Prodatron. ::: It's much more work did it in this way and both Wikis will be differentmoved "contribute" to the end. You Is it better now? Btw, how can see an example for that situation on the [http://wiki.gp2x.org GP2X Wiki] and this device has a much bigger userbase. I guess clear the most common language should be used, so we should write greek.... aehm... english ;-). cache? --[[User:OctoateProdatron|OctoateProdatron]] 1522:5704, 5 29 August 2006 (CEST)

: ::: The Bastard is me, I think this was discussed before..would guess. As I'm not against content in other languagessaid, but I'm worried this will lead to lots of content being in Frenchthe reason for rolling it back is that under the short form, German or Spanish, hence there is simply NO NEED for a limited audiencethe sidebar. So The sidebar is there for the reader to be able to navigate quickly to all parts of the wiki without having to go to the main page. It is NOT useless, certainly NOT unwanted (I was thinking that maybe use it should be allowed as long as an english translation all the time instead of the main page links) and I doubt it's annoying - the space is providedempty if you don't put links there, so it goes wasted. In any caseThe Main Page is NOT the place to put links on and is much harder to use than the sidebar. Unorganized? I wouldn't think so - the structure is quite ok right now, maybe we if anyone can allow think of ways to improve it with the provision that this will, eventually, be translatedplease do step forward. But if we It's not even wild, since it has been tamed a lot since its first appearance, and definitely not unorganized - see the little boxes that no translations are done, then maybe organise it shouldn't continue... ? :p [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 1609:3849, 5 30 August 2006 (CEST):: i dont think its clever to do it that way so it will be better to have only english as main language. the problem also will be, that the content will move away in different languages, so information will be vailable in german but are not at the english page and so on. dont know how it can be handled to have everything with the same content in different languages

Btw, shouldn't we better add :Great. I like the new entries here at the end of the text? wikilike design. -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 23:02, 9 August 2006 (CEST):Not really, old stuff is getting pushed to the bottom which is nice :) [[User:GryzorOctoate|GryzorOctoate]] 1009:0658, 10 August 1 September 2006 (CEST)

::I am pleased to hear that! We just need to take care about the up-to---Hidateness. As an example, if I add every one, who is inserting a JPG with new entry in the '|thumb' command, it doesn't show on news section should also update the main page (e.g. [[CPC Schneider International]]). What am I doing wrong? would also like to suggest and add some guidelines, which describe, what and how to add entries to the different sections in the main page to prevent uncontrolled growth. --[[User:OctoateProdatron|OctoateProdatron]] 0116:0224, 5 August 1 September 2006 (CEST)

:::I also like the new layout as well, it's meaningful and nicely put, although I thinkit can use a little cleaning over time :) I'm a bit confused as to how news etc works, that though, it currently seems to be all over the "thumb" feature place and it's difficult to maintain it for someone who doesn't know exactly how... [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 20:37, 1 September 2006 (CEST):::: Regarding the news I will write a suggestion for the guidline how to insert new news. In general you have a headline, which have to be placed to the news (max 10 entries), the news archive (unlimited) and the main page (max 3 entries). The headline is not working yetthe article name where you write the news itself + links to the source and the category (month). -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 0320:1858, 5 August 1 September 2006 (CEST)

: I'm having troubles with == Main picture of the permissions on main page ==Gryzor, why have you modified the server. The Wiki needs photo of the image folder main page with the ancient one ? If this wiki is related to be chmod'ed to 777cpc, but some of the subfolders do i guess it's not have full access yetonly the cpc 464 and the whole cpc range is concerned. I'm trying to chmod all of them, but how do I make sure that ..Almost the newly created ones will be 777? 464 photo seemd truncated and overlayed by a line. Longshot --[[User:Gryzor195.154.167.66|Gryzor195.154.167.66]] 0814:3853, 5 August 23 November 2006 (CESTCET)

::if You have reverted modification without any answer about my contrib here about that...I won't to waste time to update this picture again. Gryzor, you need help or Shell-Access on 're the server to do chmod -r comands on dirsmain contributor of this site but i think your method is not fair, just give me especially on a call and i will set it up for yousite built mainly by contributors. --[[User:KangarooLongshot|Kangaroo MusiQue of HJTLongshot]] 0913:2717, 5 August 24 November 2006 (CESTCET)

:Well. I reverted it to the older version because I assumed there is something wrong with the image, that's all. For some reason the "range" photo won't appear, and I tried it fromt wo different computers and different browsers. Can you try reuploading the image under a new filename and changing the main page? Also, the 464 pic does appear fine for me - tried with Firefox, Opera, IE. As you can see it's not a matter of being 'unfair' - it's a technical issue, despite the fact that I like the 464 one better :):Problem solved indeed PS try to remember to log in before doing any changes.... :) [[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 1619:3836, 5 August 24 November 2006 (CESTCET)

::Sorry for the misunderstanding. About the range photo it's strange because i've any problem with ie or firefox (my personal pc) or crazy browser on my professional pc. This picture is a scan i'd modified in 2001 and coming from my site. I've compressed the picture with a newer version of image ready from 53kb to 29.2 kb and i try to upload it again under a new name. Please let me know if the problem occurs again...--[[User:Longshot|Longshot]] 11:46, 26 November 2006 (CET) ::: It appears ok now, but I scaled the thumbnail down a bit because it was a big too big... thanks![[User:Gryzor|Gryzor]] 18:11, 26 November 2006 (CET) == CPC taking a day off == Is the CPC still in vacation? ;-) Maybe we could remove the picture, to make the info boxes below accessible in a better way again. Are maybe someone has an idea for an other cool frontpage motive? -- [[User:Prodatron|Prodatron]] 22:36, 18 September 2007 (CEST)